Elvis Music On Vinyl reissues

[LesterB]

I have 3 nr mint copies of this already. It sounds amazing - mono - cut by Boppin' Bob

https://ebay.us/m/iQckaK

[Alexander72]

I have 3 nr mint copies of this already. It sounds amazing - mono - cut by Boppin' Bob

https://ebay.us/m/iQckaK

You probably meant to post this in the vinyl discussion thead

[Bilbobaggins]

For those interested...The next batch will be:

[FanFrom'61]

For those interested...The next batch will be:


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Just seen they have reduced the quantity on the bundle that is not Exclusive and the indidual albums too. 2nd to None and Live in Memphis are 2000 copies and Loving You is down to 1500. Previous, everything outside of the MoV Exclusives were 2500. Also there is no mention of them being numbered apart from the Exclusives.

[Bilbobaggins]

For those interested...The next batch will be:


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Just seen they have reduced the quantity on the bundle that is not Exclusive and the indidual albums too. 2nd to None and Live in Memphis are 2000 copies and Loving You is down to 1500. Previous, everything outside of the MoV Exclusives were 2500. Also there is no mention of them being numbered apart from the Exclusives.

It may be a wise decision to reduce the quantity. 3000 units of the first 2 batches (the 500 exclusives included) seems a bit high nowadays. If I'm not mistaken, FTD also reduced the quantity of their releases in the passing of the years... It's not that the Elvis fandom is growing in numbers, I guess.

[Sweet-Angeline]

It's not that the Elvis fandom is growing in numbers, I guess.

...well it may grow if Billboard adds a new chart for the Top 10 Slippers

[FanFrom'61]

For those interested...The next batch will be:


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Just seen they have reduced the quantity on the bundle that is not Exclusive and the indidual albums too. 2nd to None and Live in Memphis are 2000 copies and Loving You is down to 1500. Previous, everything outside of the MoV Exclusives were 2500. Also there is no mention of them being numbered apart from the Exclusives.

It may be a wise decision to reduce the quantity. 3000 units of the first 2 batches (the 500 exclusives included) seems a bit high nowadays. If I'm not mistaken, FTD also reduced the quantity of their releases in the passing of the years... It's not that the Elvis fandom is growing in numbers, I guess.

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

[Sweet-Angeline]

And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

...or it`s just business as usual

[FanFrom'61]

And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

...or it`s just business as usual

But if 3500 is regarded as a limited edition release, what does that make a 1500 release?

"Pre-orders for a January 2026 release of the Frankie & Johnny Soundtrack - (This will be a mega limited pressing, although we’re not telling you how many, but get your order in, like yesterday)"

[NinaFromCanadaEh]

they always say limited release

and then they re-release, eh

[On Tape 1972]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

[FanFrom'61]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

[On Tape 1972]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

FTD's website?

[FanFrom'61]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

FTD's website?

Apologies…my fault, but I think we are talking at cross purposes here. We were originally talking about the pressing numbers for the latest batch of MoV releases going down, possibly due to lack of sales. .It was coincidental that we moved on to the pressing numbers for FTD vinyl which you highlighted in your question. So to clarify, there is no FTD website - the FTD numbers are average of what have been reported in the last few years.

The final point being made was that FTD were now claiming their Good Times release was a limited pressing at 3500, but how limited is "limited" if their regular releases are between 1500 and 2000 copies.

[On Tape 1972]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

FTD's website?

Apologies…my fault, but I think we are talking at cross purposes here. We were originally talking about the pressing numbers for the latest batch of MoV releases going down, possibly due to lack of sales. .It was coincidental that we moved on to the pressing numbers for FTD vinyl which you highlighted in your question. So to clarify, there is no FTD website - the FTD numbers are average of what have been reported in the last few years.

The final point being made was that FTD were now claiming their Good Times release was a limited pressing at 3500, but how limited is "limited" if their regular releases are between 1500 and 2000 copies.

OK, whatever. I am really not sure if the numbers you mentioned are correct though. Based on what I know, and I've been purchasing FTD product since 2001, is that the products are basically print on demand, for the amount of preorders determines the size of the print run. Maybe they started out with 1500 units when the vinyl was a brand new category. They had to start somewhere with their very first vinyl, right?

Regarding the limited and numbered edition of 3500 units: Artificial scarcity as a marketing / sales strategy is being used by all kinds of businesses. I for one am glad that the rare Good Times LP is getting a re-release. It's been a long standing request by many and re-issuing the same content with a different cover and a different colored vinyl protects the integrity and collectability of the original release while giving new customers / fans the option to get their hands on the title. They've really hit the sweet spot here, if you ask me.

Apologies for being off-topic.

[FanFrom'61]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

FTD's website?

Apologies…my fault, but I think we are talking at cross purposes here. We were originally talking about the pressing numbers for the latest batch of MoV releases going down, possibly due to lack of sales. .It was coincidental that we moved on to the pressing numbers for FTD vinyl which you highlighted in your question. So to clarify, there is no FTD website - the FTD numbers are average of what have been reported in the last few years.

The final point being made was that FTD were now claiming their Good Times release was a limited pressing at 3500, but how limited is "limited" if their regular releases are between 1500 and 2000 copies.

OK, whatever. I am really not sure if the numbers you mentioned are correct though. Based on what I know, and I've been purchasing FTD product since 2001, is that the products are basically print on demand, for the amount of preorders determines the size of the print run. Maybe they started out with 1500 units when the vinyl was a brand new category. They had to start somewhere with their very first vinyl, right?

Regarding the limited and numbered edition of 3500 units: Artificial scarcity as a marketing / sales strategy is being used by all kinds of businesses. I for one am glad that the rare Good Times LP is getting a re-release. It's been a long standing request by many and re-issuing the same content with a different cover and a different colored vinyl protects the integrity and collectability of the original release while giving new customers / fans the option to get their hands on the title. They've really hit the sweet spot here, if you ask me.

Apologies for being off-topic.

From memory, FTD was pressing around 3000/3500 vinyl units initially, but it has fallen off in recent years. The early CDs and the classic album releases were around 6000 units with soundboards around 3500. Soundboards have dropped off too, because many were getting fed up with the repeatability factor of the shows. I’m sure that FTDs current pressings are based on pre-orders but with a percentage on top for latecomers, but I don’t think that was their initial way of pressing - it was a result of sales falling off after that. I know that because originally, FTD use to carry stock for quite some time whilst dealers could place top up orders long after the initial release date.

These new MoV releases initially were 500 for the Exclusive pressings and 2500 for non exclusive, but this very lates batch of non exclusive have reduced pressings - 2000 for two of the titles and 1500 for the third. I can only assume this is because the first batch has not sold that well with copies still available.

[On Tape 1972]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

FTD's website?

Apologies…my fault, but I think we are talking at cross purposes here. We were originally talking about the pressing numbers for the latest batch of MoV releases going down, possibly due to lack of sales. .It was coincidental that we moved on to the pressing numbers for FTD vinyl which you highlighted in your question. So to clarify, there is no FTD website - the FTD numbers are average of what have been reported in the last few years.

The final point being made was that FTD were now claiming their Good Times release was a limited pressing at 3500, but how limited is "limited" if their regular releases are between 1500 and 2000 copies.

OK, whatever. I am really not sure if the numbers you mentioned are correct though. Based on what I know, and I've been purchasing FTD product since 2001, is that the products are basically print on demand, for the amount of preorders determines the size of the print run. Maybe they started out with 1500 units when the vinyl was a brand new category. They had to start somewhere with their very first vinyl, right?

Regarding the limited and numbered edition of 3500 units: Artificial scarcity as a marketing / sales strategy is being used by all kinds of businesses. I for one am glad that the rare Good Times LP is getting a re-release. It's been a long standing request by many and re-issuing the same content with a different cover and a different colored vinyl protects the integrity and collectability of the original release while giving new customers / fans the option to get their hands on the title. They've really hit the sweet spot here, if you ask me.

Apologies for being off-topic.

From memory, FTD was pressing around 3000/3500 vinyl units initially, but it has fallen off in recent years. The early CDs and the classic album releases were around 6000 units with soundboards around 3500. Soundboards have dropped off too, because many were getting fed up with the repeatability factor of the shows. I’m sure that FTDs current pressings are based on pre-orders but with a percentage on top for latecomers, but I don’t think that was their initial way of pressing - it was a result of sales falling off after that. I know that because originally, FTD use to carry stock for quite some time whilst dealers could place top up orders long after the initial release date.

These new MoV releases initially were 500 for the Exclusive pressings and 2500 for non exclusive, but this very lates batch of non exclusive have reduced pressings - 2000 for two of the titles and 1500 for the third. I can only assume this is because the first batch has not sold that well with copies still available.

I am unable to back up any of the numbers you just entioned. But let’s not forget that, with regard to vinyl, they didn’t ship the numbers in 2010 that they do now. In recent years, sales have skyrocketed across the board. Physical revenue is mainly due to vinyl these days—ironic as that may sound.

These MOV re‑issues certainly look pretty, but this whole campaign feels a bit overkill to me. Three or four batches of three titles each, released in two different colors—one of them limited, the other strictly limited to 500 copies. I’ve bought the contents on these records numerous times over the years, and they don’t come cheap either. My go‑to vendors charge €30 for a single LP and even €75–€90 for the 4‑LP set. Thanks, but no thanks. I'm sure others feel the same.

In short: too many titles, too many options, too expensive.

[AfoolSuchAsI.]

Yes i order the MOV vinyl s 500 limited edition pre order .
Waiting till 14 nov.

[FanFrom'61]

I’m sure it is a result of lack of sales. The first two sets and individual albums are still available. Yes I believe FTD release are between 1500 and 2000 for their vinyl releases depending on the music content. And with those kind of numbers, I find it quite amusing that the hype coming out of FTD for this forthcoming Good Times release is that it is a "Limited Edition" release with 3500 pressed although it’s a cunning way of getting the sales.

Where do these numbers come from?

Their website

FTD's website?

Apologies…my fault, but I think we are talking at cross purposes here. We were originally talking about the pressing numbers for the latest batch of MoV releases going down, possibly due to lack of sales. .It was coincidental that we moved on to the pressing numbers for FTD vinyl which you highlighted in your question. So to clarify, there is no FTD website - the FTD numbers are average of what have been reported in the last few years.

The final point being made was that FTD were now claiming their Good Times release was a limited pressing at 3500, but how limited is "limited" if their regular releases are between 1500 and 2000 copies.

OK, whatever. I am really not sure if the numbers you mentioned are correct though. Based on what I know, and I've been purchasing FTD product since 2001, is that the products are basically print on demand, for the amount of preorders determines the size of the print run. Maybe they started out with 1500 units when the vinyl was a brand new category. They had to start somewhere with their very first vinyl, right?

Regarding the limited and numbered edition of 3500 units: Artificial scarcity as a marketing / sales strategy is being used by all kinds of businesses. I for one am glad that the rare Good Times LP is getting a re-release. It's been a long standing request by many and re-issuing the same content with a different cover and a different colored vinyl protects the integrity and collectability of the original release while giving new customers / fans the option to get their hands on the title. They've really hit the sweet spot here, if you ask me.

Apologies for being off-topic.

From memory, FTD was pressing around 3000/3500 vinyl units initially, but it has fallen off in recent years. The early CDs and the classic album releases were around 6000 units with soundboards around 3500. Soundboards have dropped off too, because many were getting fed up with the repeatability factor of the shows. I’m sure that FTDs current pressings are based on pre-orders but with a percentage on top for latecomers, but I don’t think that was their initial way of pressing - it was a result of sales falling off after that. I know that because originally, FTD use to carry stock for quite some time whilst dealers could place top up orders long after the initial release date.

These new MoV releases initially were 500 for the Exclusive pressings and 2500 for non exclusive, but this very lates batch of non exclusive have reduced pressings - 2000 for two of the titles and 1500 for the third. I can only assume this is because the first batch has not sold that well with copies still available.

I am unable to back up any of the numbers you just entioned. But let’s not forget that, with regard to vinyl, they didn’t ship the numbers in 2010 that they do now. In recent years, sales have skyrocketed across the board. Physical revenue is mainly due to vinyl these days—ironic as that may sound.

These MOV re‑issues certainly look pretty, but this whole campaign feels a bit overkill to me. Three or four batches of three titles each, released in two different colors—one of them limited, the other strictly limited to 500 copies. I’ve bought the contents on these records numerous times over the years, and they don’t come cheap either. My go‑to vendors charge €30 for a single LP and even €75–€90 for the 4‑LP set. Thanks, but no thanks. I'm sure others feel the same.

In short: too many titles, too many options, too expensive.

Well I wasn’t really asking you to back anything up. It’s info I was told back at the start of FTD by Roger Semon on how it was going to operate and by a couple of dealers several years later. There has been a gradual downturn in recent years in all commodities that they sell.

And whilst the actual sales revenue might be tops with vinyl, what matters most is profit and there’s no way that the income from vinyl with its high production costs outweighs the profit from the CD releases with their lower production costs, especially the soundboard releases where the printing costs would be considerably less.

I wouldn’t say that those MoV releases are over expensive. I can either buy direct from MoV where a single album is £25 / €28 which is a competitive price for some single albums in the UK, whilst their double albums work out at £35 / €39. Their 4LP set of Live in Memphis is £64 / €68. If I buy them from an authorised dealer, there is generally an uplift of £3 on single albums, £4 on double albums and £6 on 4 LP sets. So I don’t think that €75-€90 is excessive for a 4 LP set. FTD would probably charge €110.

The MoV prices for a double album are a lot cheaper than the £55 I would have to pay for an FTD double album. The question has to be why the big difference as they offer the same kind of product and there are two possibilities. One is that FTD are taking a much bigger profit margin or whilst their costs are the same, their actual unit costs are higher because they do not have the same amount of sales.

But it’s all subjective in what we want to buy….or not….