Elvis: The King's Realm Discussion Forum

Posted: **November 19th, 2025, 4:40 am**

Mike C wrote: November 18th, 2025, 8:37 pm
Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 18th, 2025, 9:18 am
Alexander72 wrote: November 18th, 2025, 2:02 am Only The Strong Survive take 6 ("Dear Georgie" version)

KingElvis wrote: November 18th, 2025, 6:00 am Great Bilko release and track 10 is also still unreleased officially
...for those who don`t have AMERICAN CROWN JEWELS these above and others can also be found on ELVIS THE AMERICAN WAY VOL 1 - 5 on the SOUTHERN COMFORT label.
And, don't forget "Finding the Way Home" which provided us with the master track plus 2 line vocal take Elvis singing Poor Man's Gold. That was a hidden bonus track at the end of Disc 2. Just played that set a few weeks ago --- what a great listen.

Shame that all the tracks were in mono… but still great at the time.

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 19th, 2025, 3:35 am
Edwin66 wrote: November 13th, 2025, 9:38 am When talking about somewhere in between studio and live....'Singer Presents Elvis' (Venus) has some tracks not officially released
A fine release from Venus!

These tracks on this CD are officially unreleased:

Nothingville / Guitar man (part1, Evil Section) warming up
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #2 fs
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #3 fs
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #4 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #3 lfs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #4 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #6 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #7 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #8 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #2 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #3 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #4 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #6 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #1 cpl
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #2 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #4 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #5 cpl
Saved (Gospel Section 3) / saved (part 2) #6 cpl (in pieces)
Trouble / Guitar man (opening) #2 fs
Trouble / Guitar man (opening) #3 inc

Thanks to: https://www.keithflynn.uk/recording-ses ... 03.html#16

Indeed, Venus was on fire, and they released many great titles.
Since the ’70s is my main interest regarding Elvis,Venus is probably my favorite bootleg label of all time.

Posted: **November 19th, 2025, 6:34 am**

Mike C wrote: November 18th, 2025, 8:37 pm And, don't forget "Finding the Way Home" which provided us with the master track plus 2 line vocal take Elvis singing Poor Man's Gold. That was a hidden bonus track at the end of Disc 2.

...is anything on this release still officially unreleased as per original post?? just curious, thanks

Posted: **November 20th, 2025, 11:38 pm**

Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 19th, 2025, 6:34 am
Mike C wrote: November 18th, 2025, 8:37 pm And, don't forget "Finding the Way Home" which provided us with the master track plus 2 line vocal take Elvis singing Poor Man's Gold. That was a hidden bonus track at the end of Disc 2.
...is anything on this release still officially unreleased as per original post?? just curious, thanks

Yes, there are several false starts and long false stats exclusive to the set.

Posted: **November 21st, 2025, 6:21 am**

Since the release of the complete 'Girl Happy" sessions, there is not very much unreleased stuff on this CD. The few unreleased tracks are all from 'It Happened At The World's Fair". Still a nice compilation to give a spin, once in a while!

Relax #12 lfs
I’m Falling In Love Tonight #7 cpl
Cotton Candy Land #3 lfs
How Would You Like To Be #3 lfs
Take Me To The Fair #1,2 fs (very short fs)

Posted: **November 21st, 2025, 10:25 am**

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 19th, 2025, 3:35 am
Edwin66 wrote: November 13th, 2025, 9:38 am When talking about somewhere in between studio and live....'Singer Presents Elvis' (Venus) has some tracks not officially released
A fine release from Venus!

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These tracks on this CD are officially unreleased:

Nothingville / Guitar man (part1, Evil Section) warming up
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #2 fs
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #3 fs
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #4 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #3 lfs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #4 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #6 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #7 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #8 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #2 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #3 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #4 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #6 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #1 cpl
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #2 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #4 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #5 cpl
Saved (Gospel Section 3) / saved (part 2) #6 cpl (in pieces)
Trouble / Guitar man (opening) #2 fs
Trouble / Guitar man (opening) #3 inc

Thanks to: https://www.keithflynn.uk/recording-ses ... 03.html#16

...sadly the time for Sony to get this correct was with the 2018 release 50th ANNIVERSARY EDITION box set

that said maybe they will clean it all up again and include everything for the 2028 60th anniversary edition

Has there ever been a PERFECT absolutely PERFECT Sony release after his death?? That sounds like a new topic??

Posted: **November 21st, 2025, 11:54 am**

Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 21st, 2025, 10:25 am
Bilbobaggins wrote: November 19th, 2025, 3:35 am
Edwin66 wrote: November 13th, 2025, 9:38 am When talking about somewhere in between studio and live....'Singer Presents Elvis' (Venus) has some tracks not officially released
A fine release from Venus!

1000015260.jpg

These tracks on this CD are officially unreleased:

Nothingville / Guitar man (part1, Evil Section) warming up
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #2 fs
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #3 fs
Let yourself go (part 1, Evil Section) #4 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #3 lfs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #4 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #6 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #7 fs
Guitar man (part 2 - fast, Escape Section) #8 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #2 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #3 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #4 fs
It hurts me (part 1, Escape Section 4) #6 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #1 cpl
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #2 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #4 fs
It hurts me (part 2, After Karate Section 1) #5 cpl
Saved (Gospel Section 3) / saved (part 2) #6 cpl (in pieces)
Trouble / Guitar man (opening) #2 fs
Trouble / Guitar man (opening) #3 inc

Thanks to: https://www.keithflynn.uk/recording-ses ... 03.html#16
...sadly the time for Sony to get this correct was with the 2018 release 50th ANNIVERSARY EDITION box set that said maybe they will clean it all up again and include everything for the 2028 60th anniversary edition Has there ever been a PERFECT absolutely PERFECT Sony release after his death?? That sounds like a new topic??

You are right Sweet-Angeline, that set was THE (missed) opportunity. Indeed, maybe 2018... or a book/CD combo 'the making of', but I realise less and less fans favor those big sets nowadays ( But I do...).

And what is really PERFECT in this world? It all depends on who you ask. If I really enjoy a release, it's good enough for me. I was listening to the three vinyl 'Essential Elvis' volumes today... they are perfect enough for me.

Posted: **November 22nd, 2025, 9:39 am**

As for the Memphis '69 recordings I took the 5 volumes of the 'The American Way' CD's as my source. They are the most complete. I also have the "There's Always me' sets, Ámerican Crown Jewels' and 'Finding The Way Home', but there's nothing on those CD's that isn't on 'The American Way'. The tracks on Bilko's 'The Other Side Of Memphis' are no alternate takes, they are made by using one of the stereo channels and then made into mono tracks.

I also didn't look at any of the alternate mixes and partly overdubbed mixes that are found on many releases. Just Elvis' vocal recordings.

These tracks are officially unreleased:

The American Way Volume 1:

In The Ghetto - #12 - LFS
Mama Liked The Roses - Elvis' harmony vocal overdub, not used.

The American Way Volume 2:

Wearin' That Loved On Look - #4 - sfs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #6 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #7 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #8 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #9 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #11 - lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #2 - 4x fs+lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #3 - cpl
Only The Strong Survive - #4 - 3x fs+lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #5 - 3x fs
Only The Strong Survive - #6 - cpl
Only The Strong Survive - #7 - fs+lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #9 - lfs

The American Way Volume 3:

Long Black Limousine - #4 - fs
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind - rehearsel
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind - #4 - lfs
If I'm A Fool For Loving You - #4 - lfs
If I'm A Fool For Loving You - #5 - sfs

The American Way Volume 4:

True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #3 - cpl
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #8 - sfs+lfs
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #9 - sfs
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #10 - fs+sfs
Do You Know Who I Am - #2 - 3x fs+cpl
Do You Know Who I Am - #6 - lfs
Do You Know Who I Am - #7 - unrepaired master

The American Way Volume 5:

Kentucky Rain - #4 - fs

For more details, see: https://www.keithflynn.uk/recording-ses ... 03.html#41

Posted: **November 22nd, 2025, 2:12 pm**

...with regards to the 69 studio sessions, I have this huge boxset called 827 Thomas Street. It contains 6 LPs, 5 CDs, a 45rpm and a booklet. It`s incredible to look at. Mine is on blue vinyl. The CDs total 91 tracks. It was first released in 2015 on CD only and then some CD/Vinyl versions in 2018. See elvisoncd for more info.

Posted: **November 22nd, 2025, 3:12 pm**

Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 2:12 pm ...with regards to the 69 studio sessions, I have this huge boxset called 827 Thomas Street. It contains 6 LPs, 5 CDs, a 45rpm and a booklet. It`s incredible to look at. Mine is on blue vinyl. The CDs total 91 tracks. It was first released in 2015 on CD only and then some CD/Vinyl versions in 2018. See elvisoncd for more info.

That set indeed looks beautiful. Does it contain officially unreleased tracks that did not appear on the 'The American Way' set?

Posted: **November 22nd, 2025, 3:14 pm**

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 3:12 pm
Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 2:12 pm ...with regards to the 69 studio sessions, I have this huge boxset called 827 Thomas Street. It contains 6 LPs, 5 CDs, a 45rpm and a booklet. It`s incredible to look at. Mine is on blue vinyl. The CDs total 91 tracks. It was first released in 2015 on CD only and then some CD/Vinyl versions in 2018. See elvisoncd for more info.
That set indeed looks beautiful. Does it contain officially unreleased tracks that did not appear on the 'The American Way' set?

that`s what I am checking since my post, will get back soon

Posted: **November 22nd, 2025, 6:21 pm**

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 3:12 pm
Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 2:12 pm ...with regards to the 69 studio sessions, I have this huge boxset called 827 Thomas Street. It contains 6 LPs, 5 CDs, a 45rpm and a booklet. It`s incredible to look at. Mine is on blue vinyl. The CDs total 91 tracks. It was first released in 2015 on CD only and then some CD/Vinyl versions in 2018. See elvisoncd for more info.
That set indeed looks beautiful. Does it contain officially unreleased tracks that did not appear on the 'The American Way' set?

well completed my review and the only thing I see not on THE AMERICAN WAY set is;

YOU`LL THINK OF ME (take 14) unless I am mistaken but don`t think so or it`s a misprint

Posted: **November 23rd, 2025, 2:13 am**

Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 6:21 pm
Bilbobaggins wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 3:12 pm
Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 2:12 pm ...with regards to the 69 studio sessions, I have this huge boxset called 827 Thomas Street. It contains 6 LPs, 5 CDs, a 45rpm and a booklet. It`s incredible to look at. Mine is on blue vinyl. The CDs total 91 tracks. It was first released in 2015 on CD only and then some CD/Vinyl versions in 2018. See elvisoncd for more info.
That set indeed looks beautiful. Does it contain officially unreleased tracks that did not appear on the 'The American Way' set?
well completed my review and the only thing I see not on THE AMERICAN WAY set is;

YOU`LL THINK OF ME (take 14) unless I am mistaken but don`t think so or it`s a misprint

Thank you for checking! If it is indeed take 14 then it is officially released on FTD and the mainstream 'American Sound 1969' set.

Posted: **November 23rd, 2025, 4:52 am**

John wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 12:14 pm
Bilbobaggins wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 9:39 am As for the Memphis '69 recordings I took the 5 volumes of the 'The American Way' CD's as my source. They are the most complete. I also have the "There's Always me' sets, Ámerican Crown Jewels' and 'Finding The Way Home', but there's nothing on those CD's that isn't on 'The American Way'. The tracks on Bilko's 'The Other Side Of Memphis' are no alternate takes, they are made by using one of the stereo channels and then made into mono tracks.

I also didn't look at any of the alternate mixes and partly overdubbed mixes that are found on many releases. Just Elvis' vocal recordings.

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These tracks are officially unreleased:

The American Way Volume 1:

In The Ghetto - #12 - LFS
Mama Liked The Roses - Elvis' harmony vocal overdub, not used.

The American Way Volume 2:

Wearin' That Loved On Look - #4 - sfs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #6 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #7 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #8 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #9 - fs
Wearin' That Loved On Look - #11 - lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #2 - 4x fs+lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #3 - cpl
Only The Strong Survive - #4 - 3x fs+lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #5 - 3x fs
Only The Strong Survive - #6 - cpl
Only The Strong Survive - #7 - fs+lfs
Only The Strong Survive - #9 - lfs

The American Way Volume 3:

Long Black Limousine - #4 - fs
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind - rehearsel
And The Grass Won't Pay No Mind - #4 - lfs
If I'm A Fool For Loving You - #4 - lfs
If I'm A Fool For Loving You - #5 - sfs

The American Way Volume 4:

True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #3 - cpl
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #8 - sfs+lfs
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #9 - sfs
True Love Travels On A Gravel Road - #10 - fs+sfs
Do You Know Who I Am - #2 - 3x fs+cpl
Do You Know Who I Am - #6 - lfs
Do You Know Who I Am - #7 - unrepaired master

The American Way Volume 5:

Kentucky Rain - #4 - fs

For more details, see: https://www.keithflynn.uk/recording-ses ... 03.html#41
This is a wonderful set of CDs. How they managed to get those tracks is a mystery.

Well @John, I guess we'll never know exactly. But maybe this is part of the answer:

When I visited an Elvis meeting in the Netherlands with some friends, in the mid 90's, they played a tape with tracks that clearly were unreleased outtakes. Talking to one of the people who organised the meeting, this person told us that this one tape was only a part of the many, many outtakes he had on tape. He said that a Dutchman in the Elvis-scene got dozens of 2nd generation cassette tapes filled with studio sessions and some soundboards too. This Dutchman got them from a person very high in the Elvis 'research hierarchy'. They were never given with the intention of releasing all this stuff, he said ( a little naive, I'd think). I thought he was exaggerating at the time, but later that year the first CD's were released with lots of outtakes in good quality, followed by good soundboards...

Posted: **November 23rd, 2025, 7:17 am**

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 23rd, 2025, 2:13 am
Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 6:21 pm
Bilbobaggins wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 3:12 pm
Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 2:12 pm ...with regards to the 69 studio sessions, I have this huge boxset called 827 Thomas Street. It contains 6 LPs, 5 CDs, a 45rpm and a booklet. It`s incredible to look at. Mine is on blue vinyl. The CDs total 91 tracks. It was first released in 2015 on CD only and then some CD/Vinyl versions in 2018. See elvisoncd for more info.
That set indeed looks beautiful. Does it contain officially unreleased tracks that did not appear on the 'The American Way' set?
well completed my review and the only thing I see not on THE AMERICAN WAY set is;

YOU`LL THINK OF ME (take 14) unless I am mistaken but don`t think so or it`s a misprint
Thank you for checking! If it is indeed take 14 then it is officially released on FTD and the mainstream 'American Sound 1969' set.

thanks well that settles that

Posted: **November 24th, 2025, 8:26 am**

The 2-CD set 'The Complete Spinout Sessions" has quite some unreleased takes (until a FTD sessions box is released, wich will surely happen, I think). Released by 'The Famous Groove' in 1997... A lot of these outtakes were also released on several different other bootlegs.

Officially unreleased:

Smorgasbord #2 cpl
Smorgasbord #3 fs
Smorgasbord #4 lfs
Smorgasbord #6 lfs
Stop look and listen #1 lfs
Stop look and listen #4 lfs
Stop look and listen #5 lfs
Stop look and listen #7 cpl
Am I ready #2 cpl
Am I ready #5 lfs
Am I ready #6 cpl
Never say yes #3 inc
Spinout #3 lfs
Spinout #4 fs
All that I am #3 fs
All that I am #6 cpl
Adam and evil #2 lfs
Adam and evil #3 fs
Adam and evil #4 lfs
Adam and evil #5 lfs
Adam and evil #6 lfs
Adam and evil #7 fs
Adam and evil #8 lfs
Adam and evil #9 lfs
Adam and evil #10 lfs
Adam and evil #11 lfs
Adam and evil #12 lfs
Adam and evil #13 lfs
Adam and evil #15 lfs
Adam and evil #17 fs
Adam and evil #18 lfs
Adam and evil #19 fs

Posted: **November 24th, 2025, 10:18 am**

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 24th, 2025, 8:26 am The 2-CD set 'The Complete Spinout Sessions" has quite some unreleased takes (until a FTD sessions box is released, wich will surely happen, I think). Released by 'The Famous Groove' in 1997... A lot of these outtakes were also released on several different other bootlegs.

I am assuming you have a list of Bootleg CDs that still contain officially unreleased studio outtakes or are you just using Keith Flynn as the source?? Basically the boot CDs that are still worth keeping as a collector

Posted: **November 24th, 2025, 10:58 am**

Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 24th, 2025, 10:18 am
Bilbobaggins wrote: November 24th, 2025, 8:26 am The 2-CD set 'The Complete Spinout Sessions" has quite some unreleased takes (until a FTD sessions box is released, wich will surely happen, I think). Released by 'The Famous Groove' in 1997... A lot of these outtakes were also released on several different other bootlegs.
I am assuming you have a list of Bootleg CDs that still contain officially unreleased studio outtakes or are you just using Keith Flynn as the source?? Basically the boot CDs that are still worth keeping as a collector

Yep, I have a big excel-list of studiorecordings that I keep up to date for more than 15 years now. It starts with the first recording of 'My Happiness' and ends with ' He'll Have To Go'. Every studiotake is in the list, even if the take is lost, erased, or still unreleased., There is more info in the list (tracktime, matrixnumbers, what CD or LP the best version that I have is on, etc). I crosscheck it every now and with Keith's site. That's why I place a link to his site most of the time. He's the authority on this matter after all, and I do appreciate his fantastic work...

Posted: **November 24th, 2025, 11:26 am**

@Sweet-Angeline, here are some screenshots / examples what the pages look like. So that you have an idea. What a great hobby this is!

Posted: **November 24th, 2025, 1:55 pm**

Bilbobaggins wrote: November 24th, 2025, 11:26 am @Sweet-Angeline, here are some screenshots / examples what the pages look like. So that you have an idea. What a great hobby this is!

looks incredible thanks for posting...bottom line (including the ones you have already posted) we can`t be looking at that big of number are we?? pertaining to unreleased studio material still only available on bootlegs, as I would think that number has dropped significantly over the years.

Posted: **November 24th, 2025, 2:39 pm**

Sweet-Angeline wrote: November 24th, 2025, 1:55 pm
Bilbobaggins wrote: November 24th, 2025, 11:26 am @Sweet-Angeline, here are some screenshots / examples what the pages look like. So that you have an idea. What a great hobby this is!
looks incredible thanks for posting...bottom line (including the ones you have already posted) we can`t be looking at that big of number are we?? pertaining to unreleased studio material still only available on bootlegs, as I would think that number has dropped significantly over the years.

Yes, the number of unreleased takes on bootlegs has steadily dropped since FTD started releasing sessions. Some boots, that I haven't mentioned yet, with still a reasonable amount of unreleased takes are 'The Complete Frankie And Johnny Sessions' and the 'Welcome To The Jungle' series. 'Hard Knocks" also has some unreleased takes. I will post about them later.

I think there will be a moment when every single second of Elvis singing in the studio will be released officially. (I don't think Elvis would have appreciated that, by the way)

But for the rest... there's not much left. Except for some releases with alternate, undubbed and unedited mixes.

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