FanFrom'61 wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 12:12 pm
JoeyCoco wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 11:42 am
FanFrom'61 wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 10:36 am
JoeyCoco wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 10:09 am
FanFrom'61 wrote: October 4th, 2025, 6:21 pm
Whilst we have
no idea when FTD will close their doors, myself like many others suspect that the end of 2027 will be the time that Sony & Ernst call it a day. Why 2027? Well it would kind of tie in with the 50th Anniversary of Elvis’ death and their final release could even be something to do with the CBS Elvis in Concert by way of a book/CD set courtesy of David English and Pål Granlund. Also, 2027 would seem to tie in with when Ernst’ contract with Sony runs out. Of course this is nothing but
speculation, but if not 2027, and the label is already barrel scraping, it is difficult to imagine it going beyond 2028.
FanFrom'61 wrote: October 5th, 2025, 6:29 pm
There’s no doubt about it that if the end of 2027 is the final curtain for FTD
So let me get this straight: we have absolutely no confirmed information, no statement from Sony, none from Ernst, and zero official hint that FTD is ending… but somehow we’ve now progressed from “pure speculation” to being “convinced” it’ll all wrap up neatly in late 2027?
The idea that FTD will stop exactly when the 50th anniversary of Elvis’ passing arrives sounds poetic, sure. But business decisions are rarely made for symbolic symmetry, and Sony isn’t known for pulling the plug on profitable niche projects just because the calendar looks aesthetically satisfying.
As for the assumption about Ernst’s contract expiring, unless someone has a copy sitting on their coffee table next to the FTD vinyl collection, that point remains firmly in the land of we’re guessing because it sounds dramatic.
And yes — fewer releases this year could mean many things: scheduling, logistics, licensing, health, planning, or — the most shocking possibility — they’re simply pacing themselves instead of emptying the vault overnight.
So until Sony, Ernst, or FTD themselves say “That’s all, folks,” the claim that the label will definitely end in 2027 remains exactly what it started as: speculation wearing confidence as a costume.
In other words:
We don’t know anything… but let’s behave as if we do.
so how does that suddenly translate into being
‘convinced’ or ‘definitely’ that the label will end in 2027.
Because you said it yourself:
FanFrom'61 wrote: October 4th, 2025, 6:21 pm
Whilst we have no idea when FTD will close their doors, myself like many others suspect that the end of 2027 Of course this is nothing but
speculation
FanFrom'61 wrote: October 5th, 2025, 6:29 pm
There’s
no doubt about it that if the end of 2027 is the final curtain for FTD
FanFrom'61 wrote: November 22nd, 2025, 10:36 am
All the various comments written in a variety of places by various fans have all been written with a lot of ’if’ statements/comments so how does that suddenly translate into being ‘convinced’ or ‘definitely’ that the label will end in 2027. Even if someone has written that they are ‘convinced’, that in itself does not make it absolute.
Just because we haven’t had any proper confirmation from Sony or FTD or Ernst at this moment in time is meaningless. FTD don’t even give proper dates for their releases that have a 2 month lead time, so even if a decision has already been made, they are hardly likely to make such an announcement with a two year lead time.
It was reported a year or so ago when Ernst made an appearance at a fan club meeting that he had renewed his contract for three more years. If that’s what Ernst said, why would there be a need to dispute it or have a copy of the agreement.
Whilst some do envisage 2027 and the 50th anniversary as being a possible timeframe for the label to call it a day, I have not seen anyone write that it would cease on the actual anniversary, but rather the end of 2027, after all, FTD have never worked to exact dates.
The idea that FTD will shut down in 2027 because it happens to be the 50th anniversary of Elvis’ passing makes for a dramatic headline, but it doesn’t stand on anything resembling factual ground. FTD occasionally released products (off the top of my head ''TTWII - 50th Anniversary Collector's Edition/2020'', maybe the only one) according to symbolic dates, themed endings, or anniversary-based deadlines — so assuming they’ll suddenly adopt a ceremonial calendar now feels more like wishful storytelling than logic. If anniversaries dictated the label’s direction, it would’ve closed in 2009, 2019, or any other neatly marketed number along the way.
The fact remains: no official communication exists, from Sony, from Ernst Jørgensen, or from FTD, suggesting that 2027 marks an endpoint — and speculation doesn’t transform into truth simply because it’s repeated with increasing confidence.
And if the argument hinges on Ernst’s contract, even that doesn’t suggest finality. Contracts get renewed. Roles evolve. People hand over responsibilities. FTD is not Ernst’s personal diary — it’s a functioning archival imprint under Sony. If Ernst ever steps back — whether for retirement, preference, or practicality — there is nothing preventing Sony from appointing someone else to continue the work. Acting as if the entire label evaporates the moment Ernst stops attending production meetings assumes Sony is incapable of hiring or training a successor. History shows that companies don’t stop existing because one individual retires — especially when an ongoing revenue stream and passionate niche market are in place.
Finally, pointing out that “no confirmation exists yet” and simultaneously treating the conclusion as inevitable is contradictory reasoning. FTD doesn’t even announce release dates with precision, let alone multi-year strategic plans — so expecting a public statement about shutting down years in advance ignores how the label has always operated.
Until Sony or FTD says otherwise, the only accurate position is simple:
There is no evidence the label ends in 2027 — only speculation dressed up as certainty.
Are you for real. I said what myself? What inevitability would that be then. Where has anyone actually stated that the label will end by the end if 2027 with any certainty. Thoughts have been put forward as to why it might be a valid time based on various things but that is all.
You highlight various quotes such as
1) “ Whilst we have no idea when FTD will close their doors, myself like many others suspect that the end of 2027. Of course this is nothing but
speculation. The use of the word “suspects” is just that. It provides an idea or impression of the existence, presence, or truth of (something happening ) without certain proof. And last sentence ends with the use of the wording ‘is nothing but speculation’. Doesn’t that kinda tie in with your thoughts.
2) There’s
no doubt about it that if the end of 2027 is the final curtain for FTD…”. Why part quote something that is out of context. Did you not see the word ‘IF’ in that sentence. You do understand the meaning of that word don’t you? The inclusion of the word is used within a possible situation or condition. It is used when referring to the time of a future situation or condition that has uncertainty but is based in various scenarios.
You just wrote as part of your argument “
FTD doesn’t even announce release dates with precision, let alone multi-year strategic plans — so expecting a public statement about shutting down years in advance ignores how the label has always operated”.
Yes I know, I wrote that in my reply to you above as in “ FTD don’t even give proper dates for their releases that have a 2 month lead time, so even if a decision has already been made, they are hardly likely to make such an announcement with a two year lead time”.
There is absolutely nothing in what I wrote (or indeed what others wrote) that states FTD will defintely finish with certainty at the end of 2027, and off the back of that, I have absolutely no idea what you are attempting to prove. Or perhaps you are simply being argumentative for the sheer hell of it. Certainly not a good look for someone who only joined 4 days ago.
Ah, I see — we’ve reached the “I never said what I clearly implied repeatedly” portion of the discussion. Classic.
So just to recap the logic here:
You suspected it.
You suggested it made symbolic sense.
You outlined reasons why it could happen.
You pointed to contract timelines, anniversaries and pacing as clues.
…but now we’re meant to believe you were actually saying absolutely nothing at all and everyone else just hallucinated the implication?
Fascinating.
And yes — thank you for the detailed lecture on the meaning of the word IF. Truly groundbreaking. Without that clarification, the world might never have understood that speculative statements are not iron-clad declarations. We should alert linguists.
But here’s the twist: when someone repeats a hypothetical over and over, frames it as likely, adds supporting reasoning, and states they and “many others” think the timing makes sense, that tends to read less like harmless brainstorming and more like… well… a conclusion in slow motion.
Now the final flourish — pointing out how long someone has been part of a forum as if seniority equals accuracy. Impressive move. Nothing says “my position is rock solid” like pivoting to a membership timestamp.
So to sum up:
No, nobody claimed with legal certainty that FTD ends in 2027.
Yes, multiple posts heavily framed it as a logical, expected, or likely endpoint.
And yes, acting shocked when that interpretation is acknowledged is a spectacular demonstration of selective memory.
But hey — if the goal was to make speculation sound like a philosophical maze, mission accomplished.
Oh, and the “you’ve only been here four days” line — absolutely priceless. Nothing strengthens an argument quite like dismissing someone based on the age of their account rather than the content of their reasoning. By that logic, toddlers should run governments and fossils should run think-tanks.
It’s a convenient tactic, though: when the points on the table become uncomfortable, just downgrade the opponent’s validity to “new person with opinions.” Very efficient — avoids having to address what was actually said.
But rest assured, longevity on a forum isn’t a credential. If repeating speculation long enough eventually starts sounding like certainty, pointing that out remains valid whether someone has been here 4 days or 14 years.
So no — the timeline of my registration doesn’t magically transform your speculation into gospel. It just means I had the misfortune of showing up early enough to catch the moment where “pure speculation” evolved into “I never said that, but let me defend it anyway.”
But don’t worry — give me a week and maybe I, too, will have mastered the art of saying things loudly, then pretending I didn’t say them when someone quotes them back.
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